Green gas and propane usability??

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Re: Green gas and propane usability??

Postby RedPanda » Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:15 am

As in the magazine body is strong not the valve of the Tokyo Marui Mags. My KJWs HAve no problem. Clear enough?
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Re: Green gas and propane usability??

Postby HolyHandGrenade » Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:19 am

No, the magazine in its entirety is extremely strong. Much more so than KJW, KWA, KSC, WE, WA, you name it.

Must ask, have you even ever touched another GBB besides your KJW?
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Re: Green gas and propane usability??

Postby RedPanda » Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:40 am

No, but how could a "stronger mag" break in threee weeks when a "weaker mag" is still oing after a year? I have not toutched any othor GBBs because there are no airsoft stores in washington. All of my friends buy from sports stores. :|
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Re: Green gas and propane usability??

Postby HolyHandGrenade » Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:44 am

First off, do you realize how there are no constants in that theory you have going on there? Everything is a variable.

In simpler terms: It's not the same person using both mags. The mags are different. The propane adapters are different. Everything is different. Your theory has no basis.
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Re: Green gas and propane usability??

Postby RedPanda » Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:48 am

And then why are you so against a propane adaptor you have clearly never used.
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Re: Green gas and propane usability??

Postby HolyHandGrenade » Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:56 am

I have clearly never used? Let's see here.

I have used (owned all of the following but 2/7) :
Airsoft Innovations metal adapter (which was discontinued for the fact that plastic worked better)
Airsoft Innovations plastic adapter (best adapter money can buy)
Madbull metal adapter Version 1.
Madbull metal adapter Version 2.
Sapien Arms metal adapter (worse adapter you can get)
Sapien Arms plastic adapter (second worse adapter, Sapien Arms is terrible)
and my favorite budget adapter: The PForce ABS adapter

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Re: Green gas and propane usability??

Postby RedPanda » Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:57 am

Well sorry but what adaptor broke wireless' TM mags?
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Re: Green gas and propane usability??

Postby wirelessbrain » Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:59 am

RedPanda wrote:And then why are you so against a propane adaptor you have clearly never used.

Ok, I've tried to be reasonable, but seriously WTF? HHG and I have both already said that we've used the adapter. I know HHG to not be one who blows stupid information out his ass, rather YOU have been the one making a fool of yourself on this forum. As HHG has said multiple times, you're making NO sense. I don't give a **** what your stupid, childish sig says, you don't get to go around saying **** that makes no sense at the expense of others trying to gather information. A forum is a place for people to learn, not for idiots to ramble.

Edit:: double ninja'd, but as I said before, the madbull full metal adapter broke my mags. http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.p ... ts_id=4796
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Pro tip - Tokyo Marui gas blowback pistols DO NOT need metal slides to run propane. Trust me I own one.
Follow up - I don't suggest metal propane adapters. The one I had broke my mags in < 3 weeks. Plastic adapters have many more pros than metal ones. Don't believe me? HolyHandGrenade has the most experience on the forum (that I've heard of) with any adapters.
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Re: Green gas and propane usability??

Postby RedPanda » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:05 am

1. im sorry my sig bothers you thats just to bad.
2. I have not been making a fool of myself.
3. I have had fine experiences with my metal adaptor you may not like it but I do and I will freely reccomend it if I wish to do so.
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Re: Green gas and propane usability??

Postby SjKimber » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:11 am

RedPanda wrote:According to reviews plastic adaptors will break easyer. My madbull has saved me plenty of money and compared to the AI one it is like 5 bucks more. Metal is just my preferance.

So apparently you believe everything reviews tell you. Typical case of ignorance.
The AI gas adapter kit
AI website wrote:Why no metal? Because we want the Adaptor to last! And we don't want our product to damage your gear either. A metal adaptor won't be as durable as our plastic one, and worse, a metal adaptor can and will damage the fill valves in your GBB mags

AI website wrote:We are so confident that the Airsoft Innovations Gungas Adaptor will last game after game, that we are now offering a 365 day User Guarantee on the Gungas Kit. If your Gungas Propane Adaptor breaks or becomes unusable within the first year, you can replace it with us free of charge.

Comes with propane adapter, silicon oil, AND dustercan adapter. IF the propane adapter breaks AI states you can pop the dustercan adapter right onto the propane adapter for an improvised repaired nozzle.
RedPanda wrote:
HolyHandGrenade wrote:Metal GBBs? Nothing wrong with them at all, only certain brands (WE and KJW's guns would be 500 times better if they were plastic. Pot metal and GBBs doesn't work out very well)

Metal adapters... Oh, let me count the ways that they suck...

1. Awful cooldown. Be prepared to wait 10 minutes between filling each magazine.
2. They mess up your magazine fill valves, which are hard to find for many guns.
3. They bend VERY easy, which renders them completely useless.
4. They leak much more than plastic ones.
5. They don't seal with your magazine fill valve nearly as well as plastic ones.
6. See #1 again.
7. See #4 again.

Seriously. Plastic for an adapter, trust me.


1. Not true all adaptors do that and its the gas not the adaptor.
2. Yes after a VERY VERY long time.
3. Not true at all mine has been fine for a year now.
4. Not true they do not leak more as long as you havn't dropped yours.
5. True
6. See #1 again.
7. See #4 again.


8. Metal adaptors are mutch more durable.
9. The Madbull has a silicon port that you screw off and put silicon in the hole.
10. The madbull is hard to press in.

as stated before
1. metal "cooldown" slower than plastic. Physics
2. no, just the wrong insert will tear it apart. sorry for pun
3.metal bends plastic breaks. it's just a fact.
5. plastic seals better than metal. fact.
4. more seal= less leak, plastic leak less. fact.
8. metal does not equal durability. plastics have a little give so the odds of breaking a plastic one is less than bending a metal adapter.
9. all adapters need to be screwed off somewhere to drop silicon.
10. what? are you trying to be pro or con on metal adapters??
RedPanda wrote:I would never use metal adamptors on TM mags. Everything tm you have to be a tad more gentle with for good payoff.

You would use a plastic adapter for a TM mag because they need to be treated well? TM makes great mags as stated. It doesn't even matter which brand magazine you use. It is best to use a plastic adapter
RedPanda wrote:The magazine itself, not the valve. Also my KJW magazines are fine after a year. So why would the TM valves break?

Your KJW mags are fine after using metal adapters so you say TM valves should be fine too. Yet earlier you posted you would use plastic adapters. btw it's the O-RINGS that break.
Plastic should be used on ALL magazines. no matter which brand magazine it is to prevent metal adapters from breaking O-rings
RedPanda wrote:As in the magazine body is strong not the valve of the Tokyo Marui Mags. My KJWs HAve no problem. Clear enough?

No, you make no sense and contradict yourself many times.
RedPanda wrote:No, but how could a "stronger mag" break in threee weeks when a "weaker mag" is still oing after a year? I have not toutched any othor GBBs because there are no airsoft stores in washington. All of my friends buy from sports stores. :|

metal adapters break o-rings with a bad insert and have less seal. A bad insert with a metal adapter will break any magazine.
RedPanda wrote:And then why are you so against a propane adaptor you have clearly never used.

You obviously do not understand what HHG is saying.
He has used both types of adapters.
RedPanda wrote:Well sorry but what adaptor broke wireless' TM mags?

Madbull metal adapter (ANY BRAND METAL ADAPTER) broke the O-Ring.

RedPanda wrote:1. im sorry my sig bothers you thats just to bad.
2. I have not been making a fool of myself.
3. I have had fine experiences with my metal adaptor you may not like it but I do and I will freely reccomend it if I wish to do so.

your fine experiences= you luckily have not broken your o-ring with a bad insert.
You can recommend whatever you want. Just recommend without misinformation. Look above^ that's all your misinformation being corrected.

RedPanda wrote:Well im sorry if I misinformed anyone I will trymy best from now on to make sure my information is correct.

You have not done this yet.
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