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Gas Pistol Guide.

Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 2:08 pm
by Talon26
GBB's are real finicky and need to be finessed often. You can't just fill it up and hope for the best. They require maintenance before shooting, and afterwards. Everything needs to aligned correctly, lubricant on what needs it, O-rings set, and all that good stuff. Once you get this accomplished, you are set!

What brands to look for- <$100 HFC, used, blowout deals.
$101-$150 KWA, KJW, WE, better used, KSC, KWC
>$150 TM, Western Arms, KWA or KSC piece.


Tokyo Marui- You can't go wrong with these.
Pro- Reliable
Hardshooting
Tack Driver
Amazing Externals
Great line of pistols
Can use KJW mags and other clone parts
Cons
Plastic Body(can be pro)
What to get from them- 1911's, Sig, Glock, Hi Cappa, and MK23 Nbb

KWA- solid performers, tuff as nails,
Pro-
Metal slides
Reliable
Replacement part plethora
Cons
only uses KWA mags/parts

What to look for- 1911, USP/c, M9, Glock, pretty much all.

Maruzen

PROS- High quality
Trademarks
high value
Reliable
Cons-
Plastic body, can be pro
Expensive Mags
Cost
Lower powered gas

What to look for- P99/c, PPK, P38, 1911


HFC- cheap and good.
Pro
Hard hitting
Low cost
Metal
Con
trigger springs

What to look for- Glock and M9 line up

WE
Pro
Full Metal
Cheap
Cheap parts/mags
CONS
gas usage

What to look for- all 1911 and M9.

KJW
Pro
Nice replicas
TM Compat.

Cons
Some lemon lines
Leaky mags
What to look for- Sig, 1911, 2011, Glock & M9 lines
This thread, which hopefully will become stickied, will be added onto very often. I will put in more companies, individual product line flaws, and a NBB section when time permits. Ask any questions you may have,

-Talon.

Re: Gas Pistol Guide.

Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 4:50 pm
by Slymin
Great Guide I enjoyed reading what you had to say. I really want a SigSauer P226 from KJW, would you recommend that one? I have a M9 from KJW and it works fine. The mags don't leak really at all. Anyways about the P226 is the end of the gun completely flat, or does the outer barrel come out the end of the slide?

Re: Gas Pistol Guide.

Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 4:55 pm
by Talon26
I haven't used their P226, but I have used their P229, essentially the same gun, just smaller. It was great, nice range, heavy blowback, and full metal.
From what I recall, the orange tip extends roughly a 1/4 inch from the slide, this can be removed and it will be collinear like real steel. I recommend the pistol.

Re: Gas Pistol Guide.

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:34 pm
by CybeRoguE
Great guide, may just wanna add something about the different gasses. I'll type it out for you, just credit me somewhere.

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[u]HFC-134A[/u]
[i]Other Names[/i]: Duster Gas, Air in a Can
This is the weakest gas available. It is common air, and is also known as duster gas. Cans of this can be found at most computer stores. It is possible to use this in gbb mags, with the purchase of an adapter. Stock TM pistols are meant to be used with this gas.

[u]Green Gas[/u]
[i]Other Names[/i]: HFC-22, "Top" Gas
This is one of the most common gasses. Most gas guns out there can use this gas without upgrades; one exception being TM's (explained above). Green Gas is simply propane with added silicone and added perfume (since propane smells like fried onions). This is why propane is almost always recommended (explained below)

[u]Propane[/u]
[i]Other Names[/i]: Camping Stove Gas, "Coleman", "Bernzomatic"
This is the same exact gas that is used in the small camping stoves. It costs about $3-5 a can, and is about as strong (maybe a little stronger) than Green Gas. In order to use propane, you simply have to buy a propane adapter, screw it on, and spray some silicone oil inside the adapter every ~4 mags. This is often recommended over Green Gas as it's cheaper in the long run.

[u]Red Gas[/u]
[i]Other Names[/i]: None
This is an airsoft-specific gas. It is stronger than propane/green gas, and brings lubrication and scent. Be aware that if you use this gas, your gun will degrade faster than normal. Also, some guns will not be able to handle red gas.

[u]CO2[/u]
[i]Other Names[/i]: "Black" Gas (up for debate)
This is the strongest of all the common gasses used in airsoft. Only guns made to handle CO2 will be able to use it, and even they will not last a long time. It is a VERY strong gas. These are the small 12g canisters that you find at a few sports stores, plus a few other places, and requires special CO2 mags since the canister goes in the actual magazine.


(It's in code mode just so that you get all the bb codes)

Re: Gas Pistol Guide.

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:35 pm
by Talon26
Thanks, and I didn't do anything about the gases because one of the admins posted the same thing.

Re: Gas Pistol Guide.

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:36 pm
by CybeRoguE
*Facepalm*

I feel like an idiot, I just remembered that... Oh well, 5 minutes to type it. Why not add a link at least?

Re: Gas Pistol Guide.

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:40 pm
by cat61986
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=13

the issue about trying to sticky everything is that no one seems to be reading it anyways.... :roll:

Re: Gas Pistol Guide.

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:44 pm
by CybeRoguE
Yeah, I meant a link on the first post. Something like "Info on different gasses here..."

I get what you mean though. Too many people don't seem to check if their question has already been asked.

Re: Gas Pistol Guide.

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:08 am
by Talon26
Cody wrote:Do you plan on adding any more guns to this guide? And I think this should be stickied... just saying...

I do plan on adding more, as time allows for me. I knocked off the major brands new guys look at. I will also include a NBB section and a section for gas SMG/Rifle/Shotgun/Sniper Rifles if it is in demand. This is my first installment in my weapon guide. Expect a Sniper Rifle Guide, Beginner AEG, and maybe a few others( suggestions?)

I am trying to make the mods lives easier by making these guides to help cut down on the which gun threads. Hopefully once I make a few more, they will gain popularity and would actually be used by people.

Re: Gas Pistol Guide.

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 6:29 pm
by CybeRoguE
Don't forget revolvers, and maybe even grenades.