SnakeAssault wrote:But why does America need to be Big Brother? Are we as a country so arrogant to believe that we are so much better than the rest of the world, that we need to babysit them?
It is my belief that the role of Big Brother was essentially thrust upon us, I'd say around the end of WWII. The UK was trashed economically, as was everyone else, and the Russians were secretly preparing to launch what would have been WWIII(these plans were ditched as a result of the death of Joseph Stalin, and the next leader had a bit of a better head than he did). At that point in time America WAS better than other countries. better off financially and economically, better militarily, and was probably hit the lightest financially by the war, since we got in on it so late. Our morals were also higher than those of other countries at that time. THink about how long America has been "Big Brother". WWII ended in 1945. the current year is 2013. that is 68 (Sixty-freakin-eight) YEARS of being the "parent" to the rest of the world. I know for a fact that that role has been abused heavily, especially in the last, say, 13 years. It is our job to wipe evil up every time it rears its head, but I agree with Hope that spying on people in the name of nobility is unreasonably stupid (not to mention a HUGE waste of time, money, and manpower). But take a look at the world around you. what country is NOT steeped all the way in socialism, as well as NOT completely overrun by debt, and one that IS able to protect the weak from the greedy and evil world leaders such as Akhma-d*uchebag(forgot how to spell his name), Putin, the dude from Palestine, Kim-Jong-Un, and others who would love nothing more than to blow the good guys off the face of the earth? Until someone can take the job and do it well, The USA is stuck with fixing ourselves quickly so we can get back to protecting others.
Im not defending spying by any means. that is unnacceptable
Hopeinen wrote:How would the US gov. react if they found out that the British were spying on US officials?
US spying on some of its closest allies is a serious breech of trust, it will affect the opinion of the people in those countries about US.
Im not really sure how much of that hacking story is actually true. I believe very little of what ANY media says. and even if it does affect the opinion about the US, what can they do about it. we are strong enough to wipe half of europe in a matter of hours. not that things are settled that way these days, thank God.
And this is not just about storing information of the regular population, US has allegedly been spying on government installation and officials too.
Placing bugs and hacking systems in a foreign country without judicial permission is a clear violation of the laws in these countries.
Maybe so. the USA shouldnt have spied on their allies(IF that even happened). But think, they must have had a reason.....
You cant justify everything in the name of fighting terrorism and keeping us safe.
and finally, I dont. this ordeal(again, IF ITS TRUE) should not have taken place. not everything can be justified in the name of "keeping us safe" your right. but Im going to wait until the full story comes to light before I pass judgement or make excuses.